cartels and others and are used to kill people. >> but sir, aren't you then -- it sounds like you're just making a political position. yes, you oppose, you know, the nra, i assume, you oppose loopholes that allow guns to be sold through gun shows. but why not investigate who made the decision in this fast and furious program? we still don't know who actually signed off on this. >> well, i am interested and there is an ongoing investigation at the justice department, through its solicitor general is undertaking, ands have already been made and the investigation is not complete. i would allow it -- i would allow that investigation to run its course. >> but sir, it seems like you're saying, well, the justice department should be able to investigate itself when, in fact, if this was something else, i'm not sure you would leave it up to the people who have been accused of or questioned about the, you know, who approved it, whether someone in the justice department approved it.